Friends of Baguley. HALL

BAGULEY HALL SALE, APRIL UPDATE

In terms of progress on Baguley Hall this month, the two parties have now met with Manchester City Council and our Development Advice colleagues. We’re currently awaiting written advice from both MCC and our Development Advice team on the two parties’ initial proposals. This advice will inform next steps. We’re just about to enter the pre-election period so as a public body we’ll be restricted in terms of what we can communicate until after the local elections on 1st May. We will be in touch after that concludes with a further progress update.

Mat Hopkins
Chair, Committee to Save Baguley Hall

Hello Friends.

Hi all,

March update on sale of Baguley Hall



We wanted to update you on Baguley Hall progress this month. Discussions with the two potential owners/ occupiers are progressing well, with site visits for both parties taking place last month. The next key stage – later this month - is for the two parties to present their initial ideas to Manchester City Council and our Development Advice colleagues, to gather their early thoughts. Following this the parties will work up their plans in more detail, ready for submission to us in late spring/ early summer.



Any queries please do contact us, and I’ll me in touch again soon.



Thanks

Pippa



Pippa Brown

Historic Places sdvisor



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DON'T PANIC - THEY'RE ISLAMIC!

Don't know if you remember a few years back I traced the Massey family of Dunham of which the De Baguleghs were a cadet branch, to France and then 8th century Cordoba in Spain under Moorish control, they were then called the Ferté-Macé family, before coming to England with William the Conquerer, here's a bit of extra information:

Further info on the Ferté-Macé family from Cordoba, Spain under Moorish Control:

Córdoba was under Moorish control from the 8th century until the Moors were eventually defeated in 1492. During this time, Córdoba was the capital of the Islamic empire of Al-Andalus.

How the Moors conquered Córdoba
In 711, Arab and Berber forces led by Tariq ibn Ziyad crossed the Strait of Gibraltar and conquered the Visigothic Kingdom of Hispania.
The Moors took Córdoba by storm and established themselves within the city.
In 716, Córdoba became the provincial capital of Al-Andalus, replacing Seville.

The Moorish period of Córdoba's glory
The Umayyad Emirate of Córdoba was founded in 756 by Abd ar-Rahman I.

The Caliphate of Córdoba was established in 929.
The city's period of greatest glory began in the 8th century when many mosques, palaces, and public buildings were built.

The Moors' impact on Córdoba
The Moors left a lasting impact on Spanish culture and architecture.
The Great Mosque of Córdoba (Mezquita) is a massive former mosque that dominates the medieval town.

The Moors also introduced many new crops and cultural achievements.

(If you look at the name the Ferté bit is Spanish and the Macé bit is French..look at the accent over Macé it would've been pronounced Mass-ay which is written as Massey or Masscy as in Dunham....etc etc)

Hope you find this info interesting....

Mat Hopkins

Dear Friends,

I'm really sorry the latest update is so brief, I doubt we'll hear anything final for at least six months, one good thing is they appear to be putting more investment in grounds maintenance, I'd noticed that it had looked neglected in comparison with previous high standards, especially around the area of spare land to the left of the Hall.

Speaking of which, I think that spare land may very well be built on as part of future plans, just a guess but a developer could get 4-6 houses or an apartment block on there. I think that this outcome would be entirely detrimental to the future of The Hall, its original estate having almost entirely disappeared !

Let me know what you think...

Mat Hopkins
Committee to save Baguley Hall

SALE OF BAGULEY HALL MONTHLY UPDATE

Received the following from Historic England

Hi all

I just wanted to update you on progress since our catch up before Christmas. We’ve now received advice from the various areas of in house expertise (such as legal), and this is informing the working up of the disposal strategy. The new alarm system is working well, and Facilities Management are regularly monitoring the condition of the building and will be extending grounds maintenance through next season.

Any queries please do contact us, and I’ll be in touch again soon.



Thanks

Pippa



Pippa Brown

Historic Places Adviser (North West)

Historic England

The dinnerladies at NGHS absolutely refused to take out the rubbish in the late 1970s due to the appearance of the Knight on horseback and two grey ladies, when I was 7 or 8 years old I often saw the Knight, who was he? Can only assume it Was Sir William!

Dear Friends,

I never thought I'd do this as I don't believe in Spirits but would you like to hear the stories of the Ghosts of Baguley Hall?

Regards, Mat Hopkins

Dear Friends,

Following the online meeting earlier here is the news regarding our lovely old hall

"Hi all



Thanks for your time earlier. Following on from which our Public Engagement Manager has provided me with the following statement to share with you, providing some guidance around what can be shared at this time:



“In November we wrote to all interested parties who made proposals for the reuse of Baguley Hall, asking for further information on their financial resources, together with their track record for undertaking refurbishment, redevelopment or reuse of historic buildings or sites.



We're pleased to confirm that following an assessment of this information, we are able to take two applicants through to further discussions in the New Year.



Applicants who did not meet the required criteria on finance or track record, or who haven’t provided sufficient information, have not been taken through to the next stage, although Historic England would be keen to continue working with them in future should the right circumstances or projects arise.



Grade I listed Baguley Hall is one of the most important historic buildings in south Manchester and we are determined to find a buyer or long-term tenant with the right credentials to secure its future.”

I'm so sorry it's nothing more concrete to give you coming up to Christmas and there's no.point speculating on the identities of who is in or out, HE say that remains confidential.

HE did say that the process will take at least another six months, probably more and that they reserve the right not to sell the Hall should the two remaining applicants prove unsuitable.

So, there it is, I would appreciate your feedback and if you want to.attend Friends of Baguley Hall's AGM on Monday 16th January 7pm Hall Lane Resource Centre you all have an.open invitation!

Merry Christmas and a Happy New year to you all

Mat Hopkins
Chair, Committee to Save Baguley Hall
[email protected]

Dear Friends,

***BEEN CONTACTED BY HE WHO SAY THE MEETING ON THURSDAY IS MERELY "AN UPDATE" AND NOT A MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT***

Depending on the news we may still require a public meeting so we can make our thoughts known on HE'S direction of travel.

***IMPORTANT INFORMATION***

Expect a major announcement this coming Thursday 19th December 2024 at about 11.30am on the future of Baguley Hall.

I'll be joining an.online Historic England team meeting at 10.30am, so expect news about an hour later.

Will speak to you then!

Much regards,

Mat Hopkins
Chair, Committee to Save Baguley Hall
07570 653032

Dear Friends,

Still no news on the sale of Baguley Hall. Here is, as a stop gap measure, a concise history of the Hall in which I've tried to condense its 700 year history down to about a page and a half.

First published on Bob Jackson's Rediscovering Local History page a few days ago.

Just hit the link below:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IJKtF-KuCwYDnLuJ_Onk_VbwAodcKCil5qEq6038nMY/edit?usp=drivesdk

Regards,

Mathew Hopkins
Chair, Committee to Save Baguley Hall

Untitled document BAGULEY HALL Hall Lane, Wythenshawe, Manchester The current Baguley Hall was constructed by the year 1320 by a cadet branch of the De Masscy family, the De Baguleghs. It stands on the site of a much earlier, 11th/12th century Anglo Saxon building. The area around The Hall has been a site of ha...

Dear Friends,

We've had an email from Pippa Brown at Historic England just to let us know that there's still nothing to report regarding the sale of Baguley Hall and that she'll keep us "in the loop" on the first of each month.

I'm sorry that I've nothing to tell you either positive or negative but HE are still doing their due diligence on the three "expressions of interest"

I doubt we'll hear anything now until the New Year.

As soon as I know anything I'll let you all know.

Regards,

Mat Hopkins
Chair, Committee to Save Baguley Hall