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10/22/2026

I have given this a day now I’m going to write my rebuttal. This is very information heavy and I thought I could write my response in a different color but what I’ll do is write my response in brackets. I’m sorry this is a long one but I believe this should be a discussed.

I normally don't engage with negative and misleading tactics, but I refuse to allow misleading information to be spread about our community.

{ This is the most telling of opening statements. This city operates in hush tones or flat out censors negative posts. As city hall meeting on Monday shown when anyone tries to communicate a problem to this city it gets ignored. Call councilman you get no call back, talk to the mayor he says do it yourself. When our fire Chief gets ignored he feels like the rest of us. He should be able to appeal to the public on social media, if it makes you look bad or not. Your entire city government’s policy is to not engage with negative information. Everything looks good if we ignore it, right?}

1. Stood up to West Virginia American Water. I personally made the motion opposing West Virginia American Water's proposed purchase of our city's Municipal Utility Commission (MUC). I believe our water system should remain locally controlled and accountable to the people of Saint Albans. Saving people from a dramatic rate increase.

{ I’m going to lump these 3 together, read below}

2. Invested in our water infrastructure. As a member of the MUC Board, I voted to begin work on a multimillion-dollar capital improvement plan to strengthen our water infrastructure and ensure reliable service for our residents.

{ I’m going to lump these 3 together, read below}

3. Opposed higher utility rates. I voted AGAINST raising water and sewer rates because I understand the financial pressures facing working families and seniors on fixed incomes.

{1,2,3 All three of these revolve around the water company. Although it is admirable to argue the case that you are fighting against utility rate increases. Talk to anyone in town they would say their bill says otherwise. Secondly once again it is admirable that you voted to spend millions on water infrastructure, where does that money come from? How do you argue you’re against a rate hike and then spend millions of dollars? Someone has to pay the bill. If not that has to be the most fiscally irresponsible thing I’ve ever heard. On this topic I remember growing up and the city bragged it was the best quality water in the valley. Now it smells like a swimming pool, water lines are bursting left and right, and the worst part is as we have our drinking water mixing with sludge on the roads and ground no one ever gets a water boil advisory. So that’s either a lack of care or we have the cleanest dirt on earth}

4. Supported our local businesses. I sponsored an ordinance that passed City Council to help businesses grow by expanding sales opportunities along Main Street. A thriving downtown is essential to a thriving Saint Albans.

{I wholeheartedly agree a thriving downtown is essential to a thriving Saint Albans. What was that ordinance? Was it the one expanding PODA? I’m sure that made the other half of the business on Main Street thrive. Was it anything to attract or retain new business? Tax credits or breaks? Historic preservation, or partnerships? Have we worked with any business to make it easier to open or operate? Or was it to help a handful of businesses that are in your pocket and give the city a quick increase of money by selling PODA cups?}

5. Helped bring a community center to Saint Albans. Working as a team, we successfully negotiated a partnership with Kanawha County Schools to take over a portion of the former McKinley Middle School. Today, that facility serves as a community center, bringing individuals and families from across the valley into Saint Albans.

{This one personally irritates me. That school closed down because of dwindling students, and righting of budgets. How do the finances work on this? Does the city that is broke pay the bills? Or does the county taxpayers that don’t have enough money for education foot this bill? It has got to be the most fiscally irresponsible thing I have ever seen. We have a community center. It’s the Hansford center. The building that needs a large influx of cash because nobody wants to spend the money on it. So we take on the nice new shiny building that we can’t afford, and hope the rest of the county will pay for it.}

6. Expanded recreational opportunities. I worked with former State Senator Eric Nelson to secure grant funding that helped construct two new pickleball courts. These investments improve quality of life and bring more people into our community.

{Once again the concept is admirable, but as a business owner I have some serious questions. Why did we need grant funding for a court? And who’s going to maintain it? This city has no money to maintain public facilities. So now we spent county, state tax revenue to build courts this city can’t afford to maintain. Once again fiscally irresponsible.}

7. Supported our first responders. City Council approved TWO separate 8% pay raises for our police department. However, Chiefs Gilbert and Bass deserve tremendous credit for their leadership and for bringing these recommendations before Council. Our officers deserve competitive compensation for the work they do every day. We have been actively meeting with the Fire Department to find compensation advancements.

{This one, after the common thread going through the rest of these makes sense. The city is fiscally irresponsible}

8. Invested in public safety and accountability. I joined my fellow council members in voting to purchase body cameras for our police officers. These cameras help protect both our officers and the citizens they serve.

{This is admirable I have the question, was it purchased? Or was it more grant money?}

9. Stood up for individual privacy. I sponsored a resolution addressing Flock cameras in Saint Albans and encouraging the West Virginia Legislature to establish appropriate safeguards and guardrails to protect citizens' privacy and constitutional rights.

{This one is a joke,right? You respect people’s privacy from being surveilled, as long as there are rules? You have the authority to ban them from your city. That would be respecting privacy.}

10. Worked toward economic development. I am actively working on opportunities to develop and revitalize the eastern side of Saint Albans. There is tremendous potential in that part of our community, and I want to see it succeed.

{ I grew up on the 2700 block of Kanawha Terrace this one I’m interested in. What’s this plan?is it to use all the commercial properties you seized to demo buildings? To exclude private businesses from starting and build on that part? Because your government has done a really good job at that. I have lived in that part since I was 6 if the city has interest in developing that part of town it’s not because they miraculously care about us. You just figured out a way you can make money.}

11. Defended private property rights. I voted to protect the rights of families to have trampolines and other recreational equipment for their children in their own yards. I believe government should respect private property rights and stay out of people's lives whenever possible.

{This one’s my favorite. You defended private property rights? You know I am currently denied access to my property because of your government right? You were in 2 of those meetings. If you paid any attention. Oh and you let people have playground equipment in their yard. You know they buy that because the playgrounds in Saint Albans are unsafe, right? Or the fact you also were one of the ones who spent countless time to prohibit recreational vehicles on people’s private property. You respect people’s private property when it’s convenient for you. Any other time you feel you should have complete control.}

{ I’m going to wrap this up with a simple complaint. I am so tired and the residents are tired of the lack of accountability. You sit on that council and run for county commission, and argue you have experience. The moment someone calls any of the council out they argue we don’t have any control talk to the mayor. We talk to the mayor he says talk to council, or my favorites are do it yourself. Who, I ask who sir, is taking accountability?

You ask us as the voters who live in a city under your control that is falling apart, your asking us to give you more power through the county commission. And yet the argument from every single elected official of this town is it’s someone else’s fault.

Who’s? If not you, who?}

{I’d like to add, everyone is asking about this $180,000 pac money’s from out of state. Even if you didn’t accept it personally why did someone think you were worth buying? Tell us what you are willing to do to have that money thrown at you}

10/21/2026

This is Jared Page’s response to my post yesterday, and I do respect his response and feel it should be highlighted.

From Jared Page

I normally don't engage with negative and misleading tactics, but I refuse to allow misleading information to be spread about our community.

First and foremost, I want to make something very clear: I will never take personal credit for accomplishments that required a team effort. Good government isn't about one person. It's about people working together, putting differences aside, and doing what's best for the community.

I'm proud to serve alongside my fellow council members, our city employees, department heads, and community partners. Together, we've accomplished a great deal in just a little over two years.

But since my record has been called into question, let's talk about a few items:

1. Stood up to West Virginia American Water. I personally made the motion opposing West Virginia American Water's proposed purchase of our city's Municipal Utility Commission (MUC). I believe our water system should remain locally controlled and accountable to the people of Saint Albans. Saving people from a dramatic rate increase.

2. Invested in our water infrastructure. As a member of the MUC Board, I voted to begin work on a multimillion-dollar capital improvement plan to strengthen our water infrastructure and ensure reliable service for our residents.

3. Opposed higher utility rates. I voted AGAINST raising water and sewer rates because I understand the financial pressures facing working families and seniors on fixed incomes.

4. Supported our local businesses. I sponsored an ordinance that passed City Council to help businesses grow by expanding sales opportunities along Main Street. A thriving downtown is essential to a thriving Saint Albans.

5. Helped bring a community center to Saint Albans. Working as a team, we successfully negotiated a partnership with Kanawha County Schools to take over a portion of the former McKinley Middle School. Today, that facility serves as a community center, bringing individuals and families from across the valley into Saint Albans.

6. Expanded recreational opportunities. I worked with former State Senator Eric Nelson to secure grant funding that helped construct two new pickleball courts. These investments improve quality of life and bring more people into our community.

7. Supported our first responders. City Council approved TWO separate 8% pay raises for our police department. However, Chiefs Gilbert and Bass deserve tremendous credit for their leadership and for bringing these recommendations before Council. Our officers deserve competitive compensation for the work they do every day. We have been actively meeting with the Fire Department to find compensation advancements.

8. Invested in public safety and accountability. I joined my fellow council members in voting to purchase body cameras for our police officers. These cameras help protect both our officers and the citizens they serve.

9. Stood up for individual privacy. I sponsored a resolution addressing Flock cameras in Saint Albans and encouraging the West Virginia Legislature to establish appropriate safeguards and guardrails to protect citizens' privacy and constitutional rights.

10. Worked toward economic development. I am actively working on opportunities to develop and revitalize the eastern side of Saint Albans. There is tremendous potential in that part of our community, and I want to see it succeed.

11. Defended private property rights. I voted to protect the rights of families to have trampolines and other recreational equipment for their children in their own yards. I believe government should respect private property rights and stay out of people's lives whenever possible.

Not one of these accomplishments or ideas happened because of me alone. They happened because people worked together.

I'm not going to pretend that every problem in Saint Albans has been solved. There is still plenty of work to do, and I'll be the first to acknowledge that. Many of us are working hard to address these issues.

10/20/2026

Jared Page is on a roll with all of his videos running for Kanawha County Commission. Promising working with businesses building economic growth, ensuring ordinances to take care of every thing.I don’t understand. He is CURRENTLY the vice mayor/ councilor at large, and president of the Saint Albans Chamber of Commerce. What has he done? Is Saint Albans a shining beacon of prosperity?

I’m not making this post in support of his opponent. I’m honestly curious what great things has he accomplished in his current positions?

I know he shakes all the right peoples hands.

He plays golf with all the right people
He uses all the right buzz words.

He sure can make some promises.

But he CURRENTLY is in a position to make changes.

Does the rest of Kanawha County sit around and admire the current state of the city he has control over?

He has never cared about the city he’s from, but he miraculously will make sure Sissonville, or Marmet is taken care of?

This comment was left by the fire chief in response to people’s concerns about the old Lantz lumber building, someone co...
08/09/2026

This comment was left by the fire chief in response to people’s concerns about the old Lantz lumber building, someone commented the city won’t let him work on it unless he brings it all up to code. I attached a screenshot of his comment. Comments were turned off so I didn’t get a chance to respond so I’m posting here.

This is a very strange comment coming from the fire chief of Saint Albans, considering it was his fire marshal that issued me a stop work order.

I was not trying to occupy the building.
I was actively working to improve my property.

Then I was issued a legal notice to stop or be fined or jailed.

Then I was coerced to bring in an engineer that worked for the city with the pretense he was working under a grant for our benefit.

Then I was ordered to stay out of my building unless I got permission from your city.

Then was told I had a one year timeframe to get everything your fire marshal wanted done.

Abusing power to try to force a private property owner to do your will.

Mind you that’s how you treated someone attempting to fix their property asking nothing from the city.

I think I know why people say the city won’t let him work on it.

So I’m confused on what you’re talking about.

Was I attempting to get my certificate of occupancy? Or was I working on the building as it stands?

Is this a public statement admitting you exceeded your authority? And violated my property rights?

Or is this a blatant lie to the public?

07/26/2026

So maybe we are being unfair in judging our city government.

They tell us we need to participate in government. So here’s your opportunity.

I’m going to give the opportunity to all of you, to reach out to our elected representatives.

Ask them what their accomplishments are?What have they gotten done to improve our city?

Then ask them what their plans are moving forward? How do they plan on accomplishing it?

Simple questions. An opportunity to toot their own horn.

All I’m asking you to do is post a comment with their answer on here.

For some reason moderators have turned off comments on their pages, so if you wish to comment post on our page.

Mayor Scott James
[email protected]
(304)727-2971

Vice Mayor Jared Page
[email protected]
304-437-7067

David Rucker council at large
[email protected]
304-741-1731

John Caudill council at large
[email protected]
304-415-4617

Earl Whittington ward 1
[email protected]
681-319-6110

Mike Rowe ward 2
[email protected]
(304) 541-6444

Bill Knight ward 3
[email protected]
(304) 610-5088

Brian Kloosterman ward 4
[email protected]
(304) 881-2270

Bobby Catlett ward 5
[email protected]
304-415-4887

Joey Kutz ward 6
[email protected]
304-550-7292

Andy Eads ward 7
[email protected]
(304) 545-7532

Charlie Ferrell ward 8
[email protected]
304-437-1068

Ward 9
[email protected]
304-444-3372

07/25/2026

So lately I’ve been sitting around pondering something’s.

At first I thought our situation was an isolated event.

But I’ve been digging through a lot of these Facebook posts.

This city government acts more and more like a communist dictatorship.

With us they didn’t want to look like they wanted to stop improvement for our property. So they created an armed position to shut us down. Think of the safety of the collective comrades. We should seize your property.

As time has went on you can ask the question what services does the city offer you as a resident any more? Has it improved over the years? No. Roads are the worst they have ever been. Half the street lights in town are burnt out. City buildings and structures are deplorable. Anyone go to a park lately and say they are impressed? Sidewalks all over town are busted and cracked. Did anyone in town know we own a street sweeper? With all the grass growing in the curbs it would be hard to believe. The police department is so overwhelmed and under funded officers are constantly threatening to go to other departments.

And yet when you question any of this as a resident and taxpayer you get the same response. We don’t have the money. Or what are you doing to improve it? The city and their supporters argue they should just keep taxing you and finding new creative ways to tax you, and then argue you should fix the city. Volunteer your time and money to fix the city’s infrastructure.

Once again what are you doing for the collective comrade?

Then this ridiculous waste of resources from city hall. Let’s never talk about anything at city council meetings that would be too transparent. Let’s bury everything in committee and sub committee meetings.

Lately the new obsession is this idea to where you can park a recreational vehicle. Does this improve the city? Offer better service to the residents? Bring jobs, services, or even a form of tax revenue? No. All it does is reinforce the idea they few elected people have control over your property.

Think of the collective.

The most irritating part of this is a group of people got together and addressed city hall about asking for chickens in city limits. After they were talked down to, the subject was ignored. They then went and got a petition and got 400 signatures. Still ignored. But councilman knight wants to control your property we shall move heaven and earth to make sure we give our government more control over your property. By my count 399 more people wanted chickens than people wanted the city to dictate their property.

But in the words of Stalin “ It’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes”

Either way keep regulating your self to prosperity Saint Albans. I wish you the best.

Just got my newest correspondence from the City of Saint Albans.Figure I share with all of you.To answer the looming que...
06/15/2026

Just got my newest correspondence from the City of Saint Albans.

Figure I share with all of you.

To answer the looming questions that he has for me.

I was given a stop work order.
So I stopped work.

He is delusional to think I will go and spend thousands of dollars on engineers all while the fire department and building department are building a case to tear the building down.

Do as we say or we will fine you and threaten you with jail time. If you don’t meet our timeframe we will tear your building down.

I will not work on anything under threat or under duress.

But I suppose that’s how we manage a city into prosperity.

Mayor Scott James wouldn’t know leadership if it smacked him in the face. I have never in my life seen a weaker city council.

The city is hemorrhaging money, and the best way to resolve it is pay for a position that is above and beyond redundant. All while the police department is under funded, and a local bar is over funded. Local citizens can’t keep basic items in their yard due to theft, property values have plummeted

You’d be an idiot to invest any sort of money into this town. You’d just watch it walk across the river or into the bottom of a bottle.

I am sorry I am not in the inner circle of this mayor or the city councilors. If I was god knows the standards would be different.

As stated earlier in my posts I plan on finishing out the environmental cleanup, because unlike this administration I do care about the community. And then I plan on listing it on the open market.

Whatever little money I can make on this building due to everyone being terrified to deal with this administration, I’m moving my investments and time towards Mason County. Never again will I invest money in this town. And I’d advise anyone else to do the same.

06/12/2026

I know everyone is tired of my whining and complaining. But I have an interesting conundrum. So this city has prohibited us from performing work on our property. We must ask permission from them to enter the property…..

Sooo…..small problem…..

We had someone break into the building this week.

If I can’t work on the building, how can I secure it?

If I must ask permission to enter the property it would imply I have no control of the property. Then who does?

If I cannot secure my property or even check on the inside of it because the city has stripped me of that ability, has the city accepted liability for what happens?

Can they be held responsible for people breaking into my property?

Are they now responsible for securing it?

Serious questions. Because it seems to me the city wants to control everything but accept no responsibility for anything.

Now we all know this administration won’t answer any of these questions publicly or privately. There is no accountability from the powers that be in this city. They feel they should dictate, you should pay for it.

The city will tell you they only care about the safety of this building.After the fire Marshal shut us down in January, ...
05/01/2026

The city will tell you they only care about the safety of this building.

After the fire Marshal shut us down in January, we had a meeting with the fire chief. At that time he asked us why we were opposed to using this engineer.
We voiced our concerns it felt the city was using us to gather evidence against us, for them to demolish our building.

He asked why we thought the city would want to tear our buildings down.

We responded to him after our first meeting with the mayor his words were we are going to demolish that building.

The fire chief said that’s the first he heard of it. And assured us the city has no intention of tearing them down.

So explain to me why, after we got this engineer report back and we had a meeting, the city stated we can move forward after we submit a plan of action, and get issued a building permit, before that plan was even finalized, your fire marshal submitted an application for demolition of our building?

I understand the state got $10 million dollars this year for demolition work to be done through the REAP program. Money will be available in October. So it’s beneficial to drag this out on your end, smile to our faces tell us your working with us.

Question to you, now that I have walked away from this project because no one was going to let us do anything anyway, what’s your plan?

I was told by the fire marshal he was concerned about if the fire fighters have to respond to a fire in that building it may collapse on them. Then was informed by the state fire marshal there’s a process they don’t have to enter the building for circumstances like this.

So if this is about safety why are you putting your fire fighters at risk?

I told the city we were awaiting an environmental cleanup,
Was told that didn’t matter

Is the city now safer for it?

Told the city we were attempting to get grants. Was told we should have had the money for it upfront.

Does the city have the money upfront to demo this building? if I donate it to you today? Or do you have to wait on a grant?

As this building that the city argues is structurally dangerous sits there till October.

Is the city safer for it?

Let’s be honest the funding won’t even be approved till October, by the time Rodney Loftis can get to it it’ll be January-February time frame. So a year since the city started this?

According to city time keeping that just short of 3 years for those following along.

So I owned this building a year was told that I’m irresponsible, and deserve the full weight of this administration to come down on me to force me to fix this building because it’s unsafe.

And then you stop all work make it impossible to work on it force me to jump through hoops so you can let it sit there for a year.

I understand the city has control over it so now the city must be safer, right?

Then you try to paint us as people who are broke and careless who do not care about safety. Lie to our face about demolishing our buildings, saying you are working with us as you are actively applying for grants to demo our buildings.

This never had anything to do with safety. This solely was about money.

So yes I am washing my hands clean of this. The city has a financial incentive to see this building knocked down.

That building in its current state owes around $6,000 a year in property taxes. Plus the city charges a 1% b&o tax on every dollar a business earns.

They wish to see this turned into a grass lot. And they will scream and cry they have no money to provide services to their constituents.

They aren’t just taking from me. They are taking from you and your children as well.

For what? I’m assuming someone’s short term gain.

So it’s ok, the city can try to paint me as the villain. I came to build something, to invest my time, and money. As these two letters show they came to destroy.

04/28/2026

I want to clear some things up. We have owned this property for just over 1 year the city will argue we have owned this property for 3 years because the county tax department has retroactively dated our purchase sooner so they could collect the 2 years back taxes owed on the property. Within that 1 year we have owned said property we did remove “some” debris. 22 tons of scrap metal and 180 cubic yards of garbage. Preparing the property for renovation.

We got the deed around Nov 2024
Had meetings with the DEP in Feb 2025
Scheduled phase 1 environmental and scheduling for soil samples for epa

By Aug/Sept timeframe the EPA did soil samples and scheduled for cleanup for Feb 2026

We went on a standby mode waiting for EPA to do their removal because we did not want contaminated soil being spread all over the town

Jan 2026 the city came along and told us they have been patient with us and we haven’t done anything.

At that time I was informed that I should have known the responsibility of owning a building and its cost

I informed them I was awaiting soil removal action by the epa and was then told he has to worry about the safety of his fire men entering the building

So that’s how your city responded. They don’t care if construction crews spread lead, nickle, arsenic, and chromium around a residential neighborhood.

He issued a stop order not only to me which I was doing no work he stopped the dep and epa from doing their job.

We had a meeting with the fire chief Jared Page, David Rucker

They wanted a structural engineer and didn’t see why we would be opposed to a free engineer

We at that time voiced our concerns that the way we have been handled it felt like the city was just using this engineer to gather more evidence for the city’s case against us

At that meeting we brought up an article from the fire marshal that stated he forced a bussiness to sell to someone more capable of complying with the city

The engineer report came back with things we were already aware of and then his concern that the second floor could not meet loading standards to make the upstairs a convention area

So next meeting we had with the city I requested it to be scheduled after 4, my wife works for the national guard and couldn’t be there till then. Next word I head was people from the city couldn’t make it at 4 so they are having the meeting at 1. Fine way to set the mood

After I requested city councilors be present it was moved to 3:30

We walk into this meeting with an email on top of the engineer report from the state historic preservation office that said it was ok to tear the building down. Once again setting the mood.

In this meeting we were informed that we needed to get permission from the thrasher group to enter the property. Then they proceeded to tell us we needed to come up with an improvement plan. We agreed. But then came the discussion of timelines.

So we still needed to complete the environmental remediation. Was awaiting the asbestos testing. The front brick needed secured back brick secured back wall on the storefront torn down rebuilt both roofs replaced and the wanted the second floor joists flooring everything ripped out replaced.

The fire marshal stated it should all be done in 1 year

The building inspector said we would review it in 1 year

So I left the meeting and immediately called the thrasher group to ask them permission to enter my property like I was told to

He informed me he had no authority to deny me access

So I texted that response to a group chat that includes the mayor

I texted he don’t have the authority to stop me or my contractors the mayor’s response was “but city officials do”

We submitted our plan of action and were informed the fire marshal has concerns. I don’t know what they are.

The epa is now rescheduled to be done in may due to the city delaying them and I will be there to accept that clean up

Asbestos came back with minimal contamination and the brownfields program has a grant for that cost

My wife and o have been renovating buildings for 15 years across 3 counties we are capable and willing to fix these buildings we had money on standby to fix these structures the cost or size of this project wasn’t that big of a deal

So to clarify the city came off hostile told us we have to ask permission to enter our own property created unrealistic timelines telling us when to work on this, how to work on this.

I’m not trying to get out of it due to cost

I’m selling this solely because of the city’s behavior.

And once again Nov 2024-Jan-2026 is not 3 years

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